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1995 Mt.
Whitney Packers Reunion
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Mt. Whitney Pack Trains Roster of Packers |
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- Seated:
Ed Turner, Ike Livermore, Dina Livermore, Melvin Joseph, Jon
Dittmer, Norman Livermore, Jim Dittmer
- 2nd
Row: Mary Jefferson, Reif Kipp, Enid Morgan Hanson, Ron Hoffman,
Eddie Mike, Irene Kritz, Ray DeLea (the Pigmy Packer), Harry
(Smashing) Mathers
- 3rd
Row: Tommy Jefferson, Gene Harlan, Ed Brown, Jerry Gillaspe,
Paul (Slim) Lamos, Charles Morgan, Richard Morgan, Dick Troeger,
Stephanie Morgan, Roberta Morgan Peters, David Morgan
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Ben
"Mike" Baker of Oro Valley, Arizona Writes |
Ray
We didnt meet but I know many of the other others on your site.
What a lot of work you have put in , NICE JOB!
The JF brand you show stood for James Frankin Chrysler one of
the first owners with Ted Cook and my cowboy mentor since childhood.
His nephews Jack Fitzpatrick (Alaska) and Jerry Whortan (Idaho)
are still out fishing for different fish. We all spent many summers
with Frank at Little Whitney. When I got older and found out
the Sierra Club trips had girls along to clean the pots, I went
to Mt. Whitney pack trains for a job and worked there in the
mid 1950s. Along with part time work for the Laceys and George
Brown outfits. I know I was there in 1956 because I had just
gotten my drivers license and came into the Portals from a trip
and Bruce asked me if I could "double clutch". I said
I could and he put me in the green Chevy stock truck to take
Grace to town
I needed to "double clutch" because the brakes were
out and I think we went almost all the way to Lone Pine in low
gear.
I have pictures of Frank Chrysler and others if you have any
interest. I just sent Richard the original photo of the big dinner
we had in LasVegas after arriving there with the mule team in
about 1949 but still have it on file. Along with Bruce &
Grace there were Russ Spainhower and more. Also, sent Roberta
the program from the 1956 stampede when she was queen.
Those were good days. I'd like to hear from you if you would
like some some old stuff from the Owens Valley. I was born there
in 1940 and my mom was a packrat.
Frank Chrysler was truly one of a kind. I particularily remember
when as a little kid we were taking cattle to volcano meadow
and as entertainment once in a while he would rope a calf and
we kids would jump off our horses and ride it.
One calf took off in a circle and tied me to a pine tree and
he said that I bellowed louder than the calf. I'm going to carbon
copy this to his nephew Jack Fitzpatrick in Anchorage and he
may also be of assistance to you on Frank although I don't believe
he worked for MWPT. I already sent a link to your site to Jack
today and he may have seen it already. If he hasn't he doubtlessly
will and he and his cousin Jerry Whorton may have additional
stories on Frank.
One of my favorite campfire stories Frank told was when he was
with the 20 mule team as a young man in Death Valley when Haleys
comet came over and everything was lit up like day. The year
was (according to Google) about 1910.
I'll give this some more thought and get back to you with some
pictures and stories. Great that someone has put all this history
together.
I'll try and find one picture that I thought was really special
of Chrysler, Harold "Skinny" Gates and my dad, Ben
Baker Sr. at a campfire. In those old days I was called "Mike"
so if you mention me as a packer it should probably be Ben "Mike"
Baker, Jr. I worked as "Packer" in the mid 1950s but
like most others was also guide, wrangler, cook, horseshoer and
fishing instructor. Also even worked the Portals Store with Roberta
and Richard a couple times.
Ben "Mike"
Baker
Oro Valley, Arizona
September 2008 |

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Mt.
Whitney Pack Trains Packers 1940s - 1972** |
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| Scott Adair |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Peggy Agnew |
Late 1960s |
Cook |
| Pat Ames |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Lynn Aronson |
Late 1960s |
Cook |
| Ted Atchley |
1950s-1960s |
Packer |
| Ben "Mike" Baker |
1950s |
Packer |
| Lester Bellas |
1950s |
Packer |
| Larry Berry |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Alfred Biering |
1940s |
Packer |
| Billy Bishop |
1950s |
Packer |
| Alvis Bonner |
1940s |
Packer |
| Graham Boswell |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Eddie Bowman |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Eric Brockett |
Early 1960s |
Packer |
| Ed Brown |
1965, 1967 |
Packer |
| Smokey Bye |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Swede Carrasco |
1940s-1950s |
Packer |
| Bill Carrasco |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| "Commissary Cat" |
1960s |
Packer |
| Ted Cook |
1940s |
Packer and co-owner |
| Ted Cook's wife - Little Orchid |
1940s |
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| Fred Cook |
1940s |
Packer |
| Sue Cox |
Early 1960s |
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| Rusty Criner |
1950s |
Packer |
| Frank Chrysler |
1940s |
Packer and co-owner |
| Jack Crowley |
1955 |
Packer |
| Ray DeLea |
1965-1970 |
Packer |
| Leppy Diaz |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| John Dittmer |
1960-1965, 1968 |
Packer |
| Jim Dittmer |
1956-1959 |
Packer |
| Bobby Douglas |
1951 - 1954 |
Packer |
| Nancy Droubay |
Mid 1950s |
Saddle horse girl |
| Don Felix |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Janis Field |
Late 1960s |
Cook |
| Hal Flueger |
1950s |
Packer |
| Mitzi Garner |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Porfilio (Pete) Garner |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Buddy Garner |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Harold Gill |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Wendel Gill |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Jerry Gillaspe |
1955-1960 |
Packer |
| Charlie Gilmore |
1946-1952 |
Packer |
| Bill Gilstrap |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Jim Gordon |
Early 1960s |
Packer |
| Bob Hanson |
Early 1960s |
Packer |
| Ivan Hanson |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Gene Harlan |
1968-1969 |
Packer |
| Ken Hess |
1950s-1960s |
Packer |
| Jack Heyneman |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Huey Hill |
1960s |
Packer |
| Don Hobbs |
1950s |
Packer |
| Red Howard |
Early 1960s |
Packer |
| Jim (?) Ken's friend |
1950s-1960s |
Packer |
| Joe (?) |
1955 |
Packer |
| Norman Jefferson |
1967-1972 |
Packer |
| Barbara Jefferson |
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Cook & manager (w/Tommy) |
| Tommy Jefferson |
1946-1972
1958-1961
1965-1972 |
Packer
Packer, co-owner & manager
Packer, co-owner & manager |
| Mary Jefferson |
1954-1964
1968-1972 |
Cook, lunch girl |
| Kathy Jefferson (Bancroft) |
Early 1970s |
Cook |
| Melvin Joseph |
1958-1961 |
Packer |
| Loren Joseph |
1950s-1960s |
Packer |
| Tom Joseph |
Late 1960s-1972 |
Packer |
| Warren Joslen |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Jack Heyneman |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Ivan Hanson |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Don Hobbs |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Ron Hoffman |
1953-1957 |
Packer |
| Reif Kipp |
1956-1959 |
Packer |
| Rusty Kriner |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Irene Kritz |
1963-1964
1966-1970 |
Cook, lunch girl, packer |
| Paul Lamos |
1968-1970, 1972 |
Packer |
| Ike Livermore |
1946-1950
1946-1972 |
Packer
Co-Owner |
| Dina Livermore |
1946-1950s |
Saddle horse girl |
| Norman (Norrie) Livermore |
1963-1966 |
Packer |
| Craig London |
Late 1960s |
Packer |
| Jimmy Lowe |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Sam Livermore |
1963 |
Packer |
| J. Tugwell Malone |
1950s |
Packer |
| Harry Mathers |
1968 |
Packer |
| Eddie Mike |
1955-1958 |
Packer |
| Fred Moore |
Late 1940s to early 1950s |
Packer |
| Roberta Morgan (Peters) |
1949-1957 |
Saddle horse girl, packer |
| Bruce Morgan |
1946 - 1950 |
Packer, Co-owner, manager, cook |
| Grace Morgan |
1946 - ? |
Assistant manager, cook |
| David Morgan |
1972 |
Lunch mule packer |
| Charles Morgan |
1946-1957
1958-1964 |
Packer
Co-owner & manager |
| Richard Morgan |
1953-1963 |
Packer |
| Stephanie (Reckas) Morgan |
1963-1964 |
Wrangler, packer |
| Enid Morgan (Hanson) |
1946-1956 |
Cook |
| Al Noctribe |
1950s |
Packer |
| Henry Olivas |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Leakey Olivas |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Pete Olivas |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Ted Ott |
1946-1950s |
Packer |
| Skip Parker |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Frannie Pearson |
Late 1950s |
? |
| Salty Peters |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Clyde Poncho |
1950s |
Packer |
| Gary Poncho |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Chris Rich |
Late 1950s-early 1960s |
Packer |
| Danny Rossi |
Late 1960s |
Packer |
| Bob Schwandt |
1960s |
Packer |
| Dorothy Von Loben Sels |
Early 1960s |
? |
| Penny Sewell Rich |
Late 1950s-early 1960s |
Saddle horse girl |
| Mary Slater |
Late 1950s |
? |
| Bill Smart |
1946-1953 |
Packer |
| Sonny ? |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Bud Steele |
1950s |
Packer |
| Bob Steele |
1950s |
Packer |
| Gene Steves |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Mert Stewart |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Ed Thistlewaite |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Bob Tiege |
Late 1950s |
Packer |
| Wilson Thomas |
Early 1950s |
Packer |
| Greg Thompson |
Late 1960s |
Saddle horse boy |
| Dick Troeger |
1945-1953 |
Packer |
| Paul Valdon |
Late 1960s |
Packer |
| Paul Visser |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Ed Turner |
1956-1959 |
Packer |
| Stewart Yankton |
1950s |
Packer |
| Ben York |
Late 1940s |
Packer |
| Sandra Jefferson Yonge |
Early 1970s |
Cook |
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you know of any other Mt. Whitney Pack Trains packers, cooks,
lunch girls, saddle horse girls etc., please notify me by e-mail
with the appropriate information.
The
Pigmy Packer

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Ed
Thistlewaite painting images courtesy of Dan Bostrom |

Ed Thistlewaite
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Ed Thistlewaite
- 1946 |
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Once Again at the Portal Store
Seated left
to right: Dina Livermore, Ray DeLea (aka: the Pigmy Packer),
Ed Brown (Red), Ike Livermore, Norman Livermore. 
Packing is such a great adventure; and, if you were the boss
of the outfit (like Ike was) you could name the mules whatever
you darn well pleased. I remember packing mules by the names
of Dina, Ike and Ed. Although there were, to the best of my knowledge,
no mules by the name of Norman or Ray, there were long eared
wonders by the names of Strawberry, Kate, Nigger, Bailey, John,
Bart, Dan, Wendy, Beulah, Sarah, Tiny, Bonnie, Clyde etc. What
characters they were. They may have bit you, kicked you, ran
away from you during your wrangle, slipped a saddle on you up
a steep pass or dumped a load of lettuce and cantaloupes on you;
but, you had to love them or they would definitely get the best
of you! I don't know how they liked having their ears rubbed,
but it sure felt good to me. It was like running your hand across
a short mohair carpet; and, just the size of some of those ears
was enough to catch your bewondered attention.
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A
One-Man Diamond Hitch [pdf]
by Norman B. (Ike) Livermore Jr.
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Mt.
Whitney Portal Store
The
Whitney Portal Store hasn't changed much since I last packed
in 1973. The old stock corral and tack rooms are long gone though,
the victims of winter snow avalanches. I can't tell you how many
hamburgers, hot dogs, egg salad, tuna fish sandwiches etc. that
I prepared while "doing time" in the store. Every greenhorn,
like myself in 1965, had to spend at least one year tending the
store while learning the packing trade. I f you couldn't be
faithful in this, at sometimes God-awful task, you'd never make
packer. Along with store were some of the usual tasks of conducting
half day saddle rides to Lone Pine, Mirror Lake and Trail Camp
just below Trail Crest Pass at 13,777'; and, occasional day trips
to the summit of Mt. Whitney. There were the equally enduring
acts of faithfulness such as shoveling out snow on the 57 switchbacks
between Trail Camp and Trail Crest in June and shoveling out
some of the 25 years of accumulated manure at the Portal's corrals.
But perhaps the most exciting task of all was trying to reduce
to mice population at the Portal's Store! I recall one summer
when Ed Brown and I were tending the store and decided on a whim
to see how many mice we could catch in one evening. With every
trap the store had to offer in hand, we set out on a mouse capade
that Mickey would have been proud of! We no sooner got all of
the traps baited and placed, with everything from barbecued bacon
to peanut butter, when a symphony of snapping ensued. We must
have caught close to 100 mice that evening before we finally
quit from trap exhaustion. |
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A
West Side Packer on the High Trip [pdf]
by Norman B. (Ike) Livermore Jr.
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Ed Turner, Richard
Morgan and Eddie Mike
1995
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Ed &
Mary Brown
1995 |

Ed Turner, Richard
Morgan and Eddie Mike
1957
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(L to R):
Gene Harlan, Ed Brown, Irene Kritz, Ray DeLea, Norman Livermore,
Paul Lamos
1995 |

Tommy Jefferson
(co-owner of Mt. Whitney Pack Trains with Charles Morgan and
a great boss) |

(L to R):
Norman Livermore, Irene Kritz, Paul Lamos
1995 |

Eddie Mike '95
[photo
courtesy of Nancy Droubay] |

L to R: Tommy
Jefferson, Richard Morgan
[photo
courtesy of Nancy Droubay] |

L to R: Reif
Kipp, Eddie Mike, Theresa Mike (wife), Leva Mike (mom)
[photo
courtesy of Nancy Droubay] |
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21 September 2008 |
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